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Michael Magoon's avatar

Interesting article. One minor point about terminology.

As a historian, it really irks me when climate scientists and climate activists use the term “pre-industrial” to refer to the period between 1850 and 1900. As anyone who knows anything about the climate knows, levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have swung wildly over the last 3 billion years often reaching levels far higher than today. Some goes for temperatures.

The term “pre-industrial” strongly implies that levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and temperatures were stable during those 3 billion years before the Industrial Revolution and then suddenly shot up due to human activity. Just one small example of a pre-industrial temperature change would be the Little Ice Age that preceded the Industrial Revolution.

Quite simply, there is no such thing as "pre-industrial" levels of carbon dioxide or temperature. One must be far more specific about what time period one is talking about.

I believe the term “pre-industrial” was deliberately chosen to imply that there is a natural level of carbon dioxide and temperature in the atmosphere and deliberately downplays natural variations.

A more honest term would be “late 19th Century” as this term does not imply a continuity of carbon levels and temperature levels with earlier periods.

I hope that you can use your influence to lobby for more honest terminology in this domain. This is similar to calling RCP 8.5 the “business as usual” scenario. Once these terms get baked into the science, then they take on a life of their own.

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Brian Baskerville's avatar

By the way, I appreciate all you do here to facilitate real discussion. Much appreciated!

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