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Class Enemy's avatar

Roger is too polite to say it, but this clearly shows that the “renowned climate scientist” Michael Mann is a liar peddling anti-scientific ideas, who disregards the “official” science of the IPCC more than any “denier” does.

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Neville Clemens's avatar

Hi Roger - your article makes it seem like the IPCC is unambiguous in its position that there is no signal for extreme weather events. However, this is also what the IPCC states:

"It is an established fact that human-induced greenhouse gas emissions have led to an increased frequency and/or intensity of some weather and climate extremes since pre-industrial time, in particular for temperature extremes. Evidence of observed changes in extremes and their attribution to human influence (including greenhouse gas and aerosol emissions and land-use changes) has strengthened since AR5, in particular for extreme precipitation, droughts, tropical cyclones and compound extremes (including dry/hot events and fire weather). Some recent hot extreme events would have been extremely unlikely to occur without human influence on the climate system. {11.2, 11.3, 11.4, 11.6, 11.7, 11.8}"

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/

On the website, the first sentence in the above paragraph is actually bolded.

That is some strong language in the IPCC, so it's entirely possible for folks to come to this conclusion not by dismissing the IPCC findings but by actually reading it too. So that's a position that can be taken even by folks who ARE trying to read the best-available source of climate science... and it wouldn't be fair to lump them into an uninformed group.

Note: I know you're aware of that passage, and have an article outlining why you think that was incorrectly inserted. But I just want to make the point that one can't hold the IPCC up as the gold standard for passages that we're aligned with, while pointing fingers at it for passages that we disagree with, right?

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