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Norman Rogers's avatar

Reform from within universities is very dubious. They are actually expert at deflecting reforms. I have some experience with this when I ran an attempt to rein in extravagant spending on building by the University of California in the 1990's.

The University of California suborned the California master plan for higher education and lied continuously. I once asked the president of the university when they were going to stop the racist practice of giving preference to minorities they liked (blacks) in opposition to the state constitution. He told me never.

I think the best solution is to cut off their air supply (money). That's all they care about and they will shape up any way desired very quickly. We're dealing with narrow minded intellectual snobs. Bullies fold when confronted with forceful opposition.

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Mike Smith's avatar

Roger, this was excellent.

I have a two-part comment.....

1) I cannot tell you the frustration that commercial meteorologists (and, I suspect NWS managers when having a beer outside of work) have with universities. They'd invite us to "career day" to speak to the students about our companies and then tell us all the reasons they cannot teach meteorology students to read a radar, make a forecast of a snow storm, or design weather instruments that actually work*. One professor at OU (my alma mater) said, "What do you want us to be, a vo-tech?!" Well, yes. Students of meteorology don't sign up solely to learn equations or to become clones of their professors.

If you want a quality education for actually working in the field (as opposed to research), a student is far better off going to a South Alabama or a Valpo than an OU or PSU.

2) The Yale Climate Communications group is exactly what a university should NEVER do. A focus group in southern Oklahoma -- with Yale paid by advocates of a ballot measure -- is the equivalent of selling political toothpaste and far outside of the mission of a tax-sponsored, state university.

There have been numerous occasions where their "communications about climate" have zero scientific credibility. For example, they keep contending tornadoes are getting worse even though there is ZERO evidence this is true. Roger has done work showing the trend is normalized tornado damage is DOWN and, as of today, we continue with the longest streak in history without an F-5 intensity tornado (11.5 years and counting).

Yale is selling its soul to allow this group to operate on campus with the "Yale" name and logo.

The above said, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and a wonderful 2025 to all of you!!

*Someday, I'll explain about the ASOS anemometer and wind vane fiasco due to the lost art of weather instrument design.

Mike Smith

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