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Mike Dee's avatar

I am a practicing Aerospace Systems Engineer (for many years). I know a bit about digital modeling - for design description, modeling physics and other behavioral phenomena, etc. These are useful for engineering.

However, in science, the purpose of a behavioral model is to provide a mathematical representation of the theory you are hypothesis testing, so that you can compare your hypothesis with actual data to determine if your hypothesis needs to be rejected or not rejected.

To this point, the CMIP models, when run with past boundary conditions and initial conditions, diverge greatly from the actual historic data, which tells us the "Climate Science" is rather crude, and that Climate Models are dangerous for making future predictions. This is true because 2 of the most important factors in climate are absent from current models.

This is well documented by Lindzen and Happer, but the Climate fanatics won't talk about it.

I am opposed to wasting any more money and/or resources on climate modeling except as pertains to hypothesis testing. We should put that money into something that is actually useful, and not a Welfare-for-Climate-Scientists program.

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Dale & Laura McIntyre's avatar

It takes a chest full of hubris to move from "All models are wrong. Some are useful" and "Climate is a non-linear chaotic system. Therefore long-term predictions of climate are not possible." to the idea of a digital twin of earth. To even attempt it assumes that all relevant physical relationships are already completely understood. Never mind about the failure of the models to predict this year's hurricanes. Never mind about the inability of the models to deal with clouds. Wow. I am awed by the arrogance of the modelers.

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