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Andy May's avatar

Roger,

Do I detect bias in your selection of examples of intelligence failures? I think so.

In the Obama administration, these are failures I remember but you did not mention even one of them.

1. The intelligence community was "caught flatfooted" by the rise of ISIS.

2. They told Obama that Russia would not invade Ukraine, the very next day he did.

3. The CIA predicted the fall of Assad, didn't happen then.

4. They failed to predict China's military growth.

5. The CIA told Hillary Clinton that the Islamists were a threat to our people in Libya, she ignored them. This is mostly on her and not an intelligence failure.

My takeaway? The Intelligence community is too big to be effective, once an organization gets that big, failures are inevitable. It can only be fixed by getting rid of the bloat. It isn't Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden, or Trump, its the intelligence services themselves.

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John Plodinec's avatar

Two comments:

• When I was in Military Intelligence in Viet Nam we saw this in spades. As analysts (or, in my case, as an interrogator), we would document our findings, along with uncertainties (The Army has a useful system that rates both the "facts" and the sources, including uncertainty.). These would then be reported – spun – to the higher-ups, generally to fit whatever the "reporter" thought was the official narrative.

• In terms of taking action, in general this is driven by capability and the decision-makers' Mental Model of the situation. What happened in Nam, and continues to happen all too often, is that the decision-makers' mental models were seldom updated as they clashed with reality. A relevant current example is those who continue to see Net Zero as a winning electoral issue even though it's clear that voters' real concerns are energy availability, reliability and cost.

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