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Andrew Kerber's avatar

The elephant in the room is the magnitude of natural climate change, that is the climate change not caused by human generated CO2. Otherwise known as the climate change humans can do nothing about. It has become fairly clear to me, at least, that the magnitude of natural climate change is at least as high as the human caused climate change, quite possibly much larger. And this is the reason that the IPCC and others have such trouble identifying the signal of climate change caused by CO2. The natural consequence of that observation is that humans attempting to stop the use of fossil fuel in order to stop 'climate change' becomes an exercise in futility. I also think it is clear that much of the climate change community has realized this, and that is the reason that they have become more and more strident. They are desperate to claim relevancy in a discussion in which human caused climate change is just not significant.

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Gene Mroz's avatar

It occurs to me that your point about the challenge of distinguishing an imposed signal from random noise could be made simply by comparing the uncertainties of the slopes of the regression lines.

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