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Roger,

I love your writing and cite you often, but you're dead wrong on this point. In fact, this is the first time I can recall when I totally disagreed with you! I'll bring up something I have not seen mentioned yet in the comments. The linear no-threshold model used to assess mortality from particulate matter and NOx is blatantly false and is being used by environmental activists to manipulate these numbers and justify the EPA's insanely low standards for PM and Ozone. No doubt air pollution is killing people at the levels experienced in Asia (which are 10-20x the levels in the US and Europe). I've been to India and seen it firsthand. However, the actual mortality from air pollution is probably 100-1000x less in Europe and in the US than the estimates given in this paper. We wrote about this years ago, and it's no less true today. https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/White-Bennett-EPA’s-Pretense-of-Science1.pdf

Like on so many other topics that you discuss so well, the science on this topic has yet to be fixed because the people promulgating the science don't want to fix it. Go read the comments and watch the testimony on the EPA's PM2.5 technical support documents. People have been pointing out these flaws for decades, and the EPA and the academic community continue to ignore them.

What Lars says is correct, that you can stand over a coal smokestack in the US, breathe in the air, and be fine. I was fortunate to visit a coal plant last year in North Dakota, and it is amazingly clean. Our levels of air pollution in the US are so low that weather has a far greater effect on what we breathe in than our emissions. Our bodies are designed to handle naturally occurring ozone, NOx, and PM, and in the developed world, we are very close to those natural levels. What's needed, as Lars and Tien point out, is for poorer countries to invest in the proper pollution control technology. Instead of giving those countries money for wind and solar, the developed world should give them money for that and improve many more lives in that way.

Brent Bennett

Policy Director, Life:Powered

Texas Public Policy Foundation

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Roger Pielke Jr.'s avatar

Hi y'all! I'm just catching up, it has been a busy day.

Let me just say that this comment thread might just be my favorite ever at THB. Substance rich, informed debate and disagreement, total respect for each other. Selfishly, I'm also learning a lot.

You guys are great. Thanks!

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